I have many, many pairs of Minnetonka moccasins, some with beading, some with contrast stitching, some with hard soles, some with soft. All of the other moccasins I have are size 8.5. These, in 8.5, were very, very big. The 8 was a perfect fit. I had to reorder but returns are easy at my local Rack. The shoes are the definition of comfortable and perfect for the warm weather coming. Just be aware of the size.