I wanted to love these, but the fit knocked them down to 4 stars. They live up to the promise of no VPL and are very comfortable cotton with a good rise that isn't too low or too high. The reason I moved them to 4 stars is that the butt is almost full coverage, but not quite, so the initial feel is that they aren't entirely covering the cheeks and might be prone to wedging. However, they did not wedge uncomfortable, so it is likely more of a preference issue than a true form factor problem.