I‘ve been wearing these panties since a long time ago and Wacoal made them for women , recently I purchased 6 at the store wore 3 the other 3 , I returned them because you can’t stick anything to them, meaning if you have your cicle, nothing will stay not even a panty Liner, or even for simple hygiene,, nothing will stay is very frustrating, so I decided to purchase a couple of them on line, and as soon as I got them I tried to stick a panty liner to them and the same thing happened, and I got these other 2 because they were more expensive so I thought they would be a better quality, but not, the same thing happened, I don’t know who is choosing the materials to make them now, maybe a man , but I am not buying Wacoal panties ever again, and I don’t recommend them at all .